Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

I don't recall hordes of Anime/Manga fans demanding WOTC make those changes, and the art in the new books doesn't look to be in the Anime style... and who many of the folks at WOTC are fans of Anime, anyway?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

I didn't even know this was happening. I see tons of things that seem like MMORPG influence, but I don't see anything that seems distinctly anime like.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

The explanation I'd see for it (though I disagree) is the slightly less generic powers, and thier names even more so.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

I assume they're talking about Shonen action anime then? So 4E characters have to scream the name of their power whenever they use it after the first time?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

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I assume they're talking about Shonen action anime then? So 4E characters have to scream the name of their power whenever they use it after the first time?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Something being "too anime" is a generic negative buzzword people use to describe something that doesn't match their expectations of what fantasy should be. Generally used by people who seem to think that anime consists entirely of shows like Dragonball Z.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Something being "too anime" is a generic negative buzzword people use to describe something that doesn't match their expectations of what fantasy should be. Generally used by people who seem to think that anime consists entirely of shows like Dragonball Z.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Well only anime influence I was able to find is in character costume designs: they share the same level of excess detail as any fantsy anime out there. (you know lot's of eldrich gems, oversized weapons and stuff like that).

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Hm, let's see what other similarities I can find.

The female characters are all un-naturally hot. But then that's true for almost all pop artwork.

... ... Nah, I really can't think of anything.

Spiteful Crow, you seem to know about buzzwords. What the heck does "Epic" mean when used to describe a video-game, or video-game feature?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Ohhh... I remembered another thing:

Airships and Steampunk (actualy more airships than steampunk). Those two elements were parts incorporeted in many fantasy anime and manga.
And now they are also essential part of Eberon campain, as have steampunk have allways been part of Planescape campain.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

I think Ebberon was actually intended to be more of a 1920s pulp-y setting the steam-punk-ness is probably incedental. You know, world recovering from a big war, trains, airships, etc.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

Hm, I don't see the similarity to 4E.

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I assume they're talking about Shonen action anime then? So 4E characters have to scream the name of their power whenever they use it after the first time?

I found the names of the combat manuevers from Book of 9 Swords to be ridiculous enough to do that with a character. He was an overly-stereotypical anime character with mind-boggling hair. It's not like they made it difficult with names like

Sapphire Nightmare Blade! (Insert jump followed by unnecessary special effects).

Whenever one of my special attacks killed an opponent the DM hinted that they may have actually died of epilepsy.

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

If this is all supposedly inspired by DBZ, then where are all the constipated grunting powerup moves?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

As popular as anime is, they'd be foolish if they didn't let the conventions of that medium influence D&D to some degree. Whether they have or not, and how much they have, is another question. Anime isn't a genre, and every example you give of something being anime-like has a counterexample. You could argue that the more fantastic landscapes in 4e are inspired by something like Wolf's Rain or even .hack, but you could counter that by pointing out that Samurai Champloo is more strictly historical.

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Spiteful Crow, you seem to know about buzzwords. What the heck does "Epic" mean when used to describe a video-game, or video-game feature?

Epic typically refers to World of Warcraft. The best gear you can get in that game is "Epic" gear. So if something is "Epic fail," it's the biggest/best fail ever, etc.

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So if they say a game looks Epic it means it looks like the latest "BEST GAME EVAR!!!" ?

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Why is Anime being blamed for the 4E changes?

I do in fact have something against the fans of anime, the weeaboo's as they call them, but nothing against anime that's actually good.

But I also have a big problem with those that blame and label anything they don't like in D&D recently as anime. They'll jump at anything and call it anime, even though their claims have nothing to back it up.

There's nothing I'm against more in the current fandom as the really really stubborn traditionalists.

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