Ok, to clear this up (for me at least), whats the deal with the Illithid as per the current existence?
Ive been informed that it infact has been many millenia between the Faction War to UPS present.
I see it was said that, during Ragnarok, the Mind Flayers managed to kill the sun.
However, Im guessing this was not the TRUE killing of the sun; which took place after the inception of the Mind Flayer empire.
If it was infact that event, then a few things need to be answered:
1. Are the mind flayers still around?
Did the mind flayers disappear once again into the past during Ragnarok? Or was it not truly fate that sent them on that journey, and that their incursion into the distant past changed the future in such a way as to alter their eventual control.
2. If the Mind Flayers ARE still around, what state is their former empire in? Are they still forces of power or slaves? Or have they been exterminated all together; or evolved into something new?
3. How were the Illithid defeated and at what point did it take place?
4. What role, if any, do the Mind Flayers of Thoon have in the Illthid Empire at its height?
There are a miriade of further questions, but I cant seem to dig them out of my head at the momemt, so Ill leave it at these for now.
Ok, my post in the Changes to the Planes hasnt got any feedback yet and I was the one to add the Illithid bit. I'll expanded on it here a little.
The Illithids, using spelljammer tech wanted to bring a twilight to the prime worlds so they could rule it. They did this by trying to destory the suns. Spelljammers sat in orbit around many suns and sucked the fires from the suns into Spheres of Annihilation. A party of advantures attack the HQ of the Illithid (the eldar brain conclave) to destory them, but the suns have be drained to such a point that they cant restart themselves, so the suns contniued to exist as very dim stars.
Twilight sets in and brings Drow and Illithid attack onto the surfaces of many worlds.
When the wild magic surged across the prime solar systems, it acted as an ignition agent for the suns, sparking them back into life, but most primes couldnt see this as there skies were blocked out witrh crazy colours.
The Illithid's took quite a beating at the start of Ragnorok as they were on the surface when the fighting again, but they most likely retreated back underground before it became tooo intense (dead slaves are useless).
Lords of Madness time hoping Illithids just cause headaches, so I am not including or excluding that from the writing, which can leave the choice up to the individual GM.
I would hope the Illthids are still around in UPS, they're one of my favorite bad guys!!!![Laughing out loud Laughing out loud](sites/all/modules/smileys/packs/Example/lol.png)
I have never read the Mind Flayers of Thoon (there in MM 4 or 5?), only paged through it really.
Finally, just as a refernece, the attack on the eldar brain conlcave took place on a prime. The brains had managed to cut the prime off from teleportation, scrying etc. The only way to get there was by spelljammer. The successful party caused a distraction to allow their allies to jump into thje prime to help the battle to stop the suns dying completely....
Kal
(you might have guessed, but I ran this as a campagin a couple of years back)