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I don't think that's necessary. If you look at it, you have a slightly-squishy melee combatant, a very squishy (but also powerful) secondary melee combatant, a stealthy guy who makes a good flanker, and a rather powerful wizard (that Illithid Vampire was lucky he had Fast Healing). I'll just scale back the difficulty of the upcoming encounters, and remove some of the emphasis on front-line melee combat. Of course, this is all assuming Korchuk won't return, which I'm not convinced of as yet.

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Azriael,

Well, I'll support you in whatever you and Duckluck decide to do, but here is my opinion:

I really like Kadar. He fufills a lot of functions, and is an awesome character that is a synthesizing agent within the party (helpful with "grumpy" characters like Baba and "barmy" ones like Linji). In addition, several of your skills (such as Spot, Listen, Diplomacy, Sense Motive, Move Silently, and Hide) may also be covered by other members of the group -but this isn't a bad thing -it means that nearly all the party can be good stalkers,scouts, and such, without having one cluncky guy, waking up all the dead when the party travels.

So, I really hope that you stick with Kadar -I don't really see a big need from a metagame perspective, and from a role-playing perspective, I think he is perfect.

As for losing two players/PCs:

Perro never really seemed like he was going to make it (no offense Perro). Although his character concept was cool, we didn't modify our PCs to leave some gap for him to fill.

As for Cortek, well that's a different matter. While Kadar, Linji, and Mrek (if he can flank and sneak attack) are all pretty decent at hitting and not getting hit (compared to average PC statistics), Cortek was our meat shield -and now we lack that. This gap is made all the more severe since we lack a true cleric/healer (M'rek does have a wand -as does Kadar, and I will go ahead and work toward having Linji become a Sacred Fist, so we are compensating to some degree).

Duckluck & others: Perhaps we can open up the campaign to one other player -I know of a few who would love to do so on Planewalker (can't say I know any of them close enough to personally vouch for them though). So as not to slow the campaign down seriously, perhaps set some deadline for character proposals (maybe the end of the week?).

Just tossing out ideas -and we could also add some stipulation that the party needs a meatshield/tank, and/or healer.

What does everyone think (especially our DM)?

EDIT: it seems that Duckluck posted while I was finishing my post, and his comments essentially void most of what I had to say -so, uh, nevermind.

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Now that we have fewer people, that does mean that I'll be willing to take more people (only one or two though). Right now, I'm just going to open it up to lurkers, and if Korchuk proves to be truly absentee, I have at least one friends who would be interested in joining.

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Hey, I got a message from Dialexis saying that you need more players.

I am very interested and I've been reading the final posts of this thread, and what do you think of a Paladin character joining? It seems to fit your needs, and I enjoy playing Paladins.

Give me a few days, I'll come up with a fitting character concept and I'll post it here.

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Uh, okay. Have you read the rules in the first post yet? If not, I'd suggest you do. Also, I have additions sprinkled over the whole thing, so you may just want to skim it all. Beyond that, I'd recomend familiarizing yourself with the other characters and look over the in-character posts I've made.

I look forward to seeing your character concept.

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Ok, uh... present? Sad

Really sorry, I got smacked in the face by a large, unexpected mass of personal matters. Sorry to slow the campaign, but all should be well now.

I guess my first question is where exactly has Cortek been deposited, and how do I get back to where everyone else is?

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Welcome back Kor. In the future if you could try to let me know ahead of time when you are going to be busy it would make my life easier. I understand that that is not always possible, however.

I just left you at the Tower of the Wyrm, considering that the other players haven't actually made up their minds to leave yet, you are probably only about twenty feet away from them. Or you could talk to the Sodders. Either way.

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Hurrah! -our meatshield is back! (Just teasing you Korchuck -I am very glad to hear you are still on board. Hope everything in RL is ok now).

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Mmmm... meatshield.

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Um, yes, I have read the rules, but now that one of your players is back, do you really need another one?

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Sure why not? It's up to you naturally, but we do still have an open slot.

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Hello, I have seen that you said you have room for at lest one more play. If you have not started or filled the spot I would like to role one up for you, I am very new to planewalker but I have been reading your past games and would love to join you. If you could tell me the character lvl then that would make my life a lot easier as well.

Post Scrip: Sorry but I was rereading the thread and I have lost track of what if anything your group was missing and I am still unable to find the average character lvl your group is at unless you wanted me to start a chacter at lvl 5.

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I'll just respond if nobody minds:

We've done virtually nothing yet. We began at level 5 and that's what we all are if I'm not mistaken.

We have:
a Fire Genasi Gnome Conjurer
a Zenythri Fighter/Barbarian
a Xeph(Tiefling?) Fighter/Ranger
a Chaond Githzerai Monk, and
a Tiefling Nathri Spellthief

Our main opening is divine caster, though added meatyness is appreciated as well(My character being the only out-and-out tank).

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Thank you Kar. I was thinking then since as you said you lack a divine caster and could use some meat that I would roll a half-ogre barbarian / cleric that is the brutish primal force of divine wrath for my characters god, if this kind of character is not exceptable by duckluck ill just roll a normal cleric from the PH, ill get right to making holy man right away. Also I need a little help witht he ability point uy system and racial bonuses, do i first spend the points or do I first add all the racial mods?

PS- I was also thinking of a Winged Elf fighter for some kind as an alternate way of adding some meat to the group if need be, but ill stick with the cleric for now.

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I hate to say this Rei, but we only really have space for one new character, and 2Dav beat you to the punch by about a day. I'll let you know if a space opens up, but I think you are going to have to find another game. Sorry.

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Oh, its ok thank you duckluck, but if 2Dav does not get back to you or if you find your self needing more then say the word. I will probly keep and eye on this tread for a little longer

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Well, since you give a lot of freedom in character creation, I was thinking of playing an Aasimar Dragon Shaman (if you are not familiar with the class, you may find it here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/cwc/20060822a )

It will be a good meatshield with healing capablities at 6th level and up.

Besides that- he will be a self-righteous Primer bastard, believing in a Dragon Spirit (preferably a Gold, Silver or Bronze Dragon). I wanted to play a Paladin, but here I can get the basic personality.

If you approve this concept, I'll flesh it out and create a character.
I had other ideas, but this one appealed to me the most.

Let me know. P:

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2kdav,

I'm not Duckluck, so he is the final arbiter, but I just wanted to give my two cents on the matter.

I really like the idea of Dragon Shaman -I realy like the class. I also think it would very well fit with the needs of the group. Not only would you have the ability to heal, but as long as you pick up the Vigor Draconic Aura, then you can heal all of us (at least to half -which is pretty good, nigh continously, especially if between fights we can rest and all).

Also, good hit points and average attacks and buffing capabilities would all help us give and take more "squishing".

Aasimar would be a nice counterbalance to out 2 Tieflings, 1 Zenthyri, and 1 Chaond (thus we would have E, L, C, and G -not that we need to, but it makes an interesting mix).

Having a Primer would be interesting too, since we currently lack one.

Any leanings among the LG dragons? (Are you thinking Arcadia, Celestia, Bytopia, or Elysium?)

Interested in hearing everyone else's impression -and of course, our DM's above all.

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Rei: Thanks for being polite about it. I'll let you know if a slot opens up, but I'm not expecting one to.

2KDav: I was under the impression that the Dragon Shaman sucked royally, but I need to look over the class again. Besides, with six party members, things that started out sucking suddenly don't. I'll let you know if I change my mind, but I'm giving your Dragon Shaman a tentative "yes."

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I've never played a Dragon Shaman, so I don't really know. But it seemed like a cool class to play. Maybe, if it really is that bad, we can tweak it a bit?

Umm, I'm not sure yet what I'm going for... perhaps Celestia?

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The Dragon Shaman is fine the way it is. It is relatively weak, but with five other party members to benefit from the Auras, this won't matter as much.

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Duckluck,

This may sound off-beat, but did Zhao Zhou ever mention to Linji that he was a member of any faction?

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He's your character, more or less. If you can't think of an answer yourself, then I'm going to say "no."

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Quote:
He's your character, more or less. If you can't think of an answer yourself, then I'm going to say "no."

I think it might be more appropriate to say that he is a NPC of my initial creation that is part of my PC's background, and handed over to the DM with a veritable playground as a possible NPC in the campaign (dead or alive, past or future).

But anyways, I was just asking -no big deal (unless it is).

2kdav,

Any progress on your PC proposal?

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Sorry, I had a bit connection trouble, it's all fixed now.

Anyway, I have some ideas for background and such and I'll post them in the next few days, if that's not too late.

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If you could move quickly, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to integrate your character into the party before we move on to the next stage of the plot.

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This is a very general idea of Kion's (my character) history. The world this is set in is generic and eventually becomes a battlefield for Dragons:

Kion was the unwanted son of a Celestial (whom he never knew) and his mother, who, like most people, feared what she didn't understand which was what caused her to leave him. He was raised in a remote village as a normal boy, a farmer's son. And though his silver eyes were out of the ordinary, he managed to fit in. He was never told of his heritage. Though he figured it out for himself later in life.

He was raised in a neutral environment, where any kind of small good and bad deeds were done by the villagers, though it was always balanced slightly towards the good. Kion always felt a natural urge to break this balance as much as possible towards good.
This was a very clear trait of his all of his life and he continued religiously believing in good, until he moved to one of the great cities in the world, where he began acting as a squire to a Paladin.

He was very close to becoming a Paladin himself when it happened; Dragons raged the earth and fought- good against evil. Many Humans perished in this battle, though they prayed and fought, but Kion managed to survive. He was awed by the Dragons' power and immediately attempted to join the efforts of the silver and gold Dragons, which where considered to be of the Good alignment. Kion gave up his belief in the gods, who failed his people when they needed them the most and instead moved his efforts to the Dragons, creating a pact with them and therefore becoming a Gold Dragon Shaman.

Um, I was thinking that he will be commanded by the Dragon Spirits to go to Sigil later on, but this is where I am at so far.

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Cool, cool. I'm with you so far. Maybe more about the character's personality next time.

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Concerning personality and goals in life:

First off, Kion sees that world as black and white, with perhaps a shade of gray in between, but basically- to him it's either good or evil.

Kion is extreme in his alignment, and while he wont always do what it takes to fulfill his ideal world (though he's well on his way to be capable on anything), which is why he became a Paladin from the beginning.

As a child he was left by his Celestial father and Human mother, something that caused a conflict in his youth- He did not trust or truly want to align himself with higher powers such as gods or celestials, who seem (to Kion, anyway) to consider humans as nothing as a result and believed that his mother was simply partially evil. This belief only increased his desire to fix society into his ideal.

Upon becoming a Dragon Shaman, he did not change at all, these powers were simply a way for him to fulfill his goals.

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'2kdav' wrote:
Kion sees that world as black and white, with perhaps a shade of gray in between[...]

So he's color blind? Good to know. Just kidding, I like what you have so far. Sounds like an interesting addition to the group.

Anyway, I'll be busy tomorrow giving gifts, singing the praises of long-dead Anatolian religious leaders, and gathering around an abstract representation of Yggdrasil. Happy 25'th to you all!

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And a very Merry Christmas to you too (and to everyone else as well!).

Hope you all enjoy the holidays and aren't too busy.

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Merry Christmas to all you guys as well, cheers!

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Merry Christmas to everyone!

We've had a cold snap down under in the middle of our summer so I finally know why you guys chose turkey and ham as Christmas food.

mmm ham

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Merry Christmas P:

Um, so should I go on to creating the character sheet for Kion or should I give you more info first?

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Both! Seriously, more power to you. The quicker the character gets done, the better.

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I'm going to be in Mexico for the next few days so no postings from me until late thursday at the earliest. You guys can still chatter amongst yourselves though.

EDIT: And I'm back. I'll be replying right away.

EDIT 2: Hey! Where'd everybody go?

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Alright, Korchuk and JaggedOldRed haven't replied in ages, and I still haven't heard back from 2kDav. I've PM'd all three (Kor a few days ago, the other two just now), and I also PM'd Rei to let him know there was probably going to be a hole in the party. Oh, and OberoniUFallacy assures me that he has just been really busy this week, and he'll be posting again soon. Don't worry guys, high player turnover is normal when PBP games are just starting out, and the game should pick up again soon, and, I suspect, it will move much more quickly than it has been.

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Sounds good, I was getting a little worried there.

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Ditto.

Its tough enough to be a DM and come out with a storyline without most of the players scuttling.

I do want to say that I love the campaign (even with the little we have done). Glad to hear that the three of us (and our DM) are sticking with it. Hopefully some of the others reply.

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For the record, I think I can get OF back in the game, even if it requires showing up at his house and yelling at him. Finding players shouldn't be too hard either. For whatever reason, there is always a ton of people out there interested in joining a PBP game. Incidentally, a great way to keep players in line can be to point out all the people who would kill to take their place.

Anyway, don't worry, as long as I'm still alive and posting (or even if I'm dead and posting) the game will live on.

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5 days later... anybody out there?

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Right here.

I guess I could just declare that we walk off but that seemed kind of rude to the guy at the festhall.

Duckluck's been posting on other threads so he's about.

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I'm here and there and, frankly, everywhere. Not to worry, I was sort of waiting for someone else to post (canny bashers would notice that my last OOC post was made well after Azriael's IC Post).

I do have a somewhat important anouncement to make though. As of today, I have started my spring semester, and I now have 8 am classes four days of the week (I do have Fridays off though, so that's something). With that in mind, I have had to make some adjustments to my schedule. So, for the next few months, you won't be seeing any posts by me made after about 10:30 pm PST (unless I can't sleep). I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

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Thanks for the heads up, and that shouldn't be a problem. Also, good luck with the spring semester.

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Thanks, I may need it.

Edit: Oh, and welcome back JOR, that's one less person to replace.

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Hey everyone.

I disappeared. This is my fault, but I'm going to blame it on a series of really bad things [tm], which DID happen but aren't really responsible for it.

(That's what they'd like you to think.)

In any case, if I'm still in the game, I'm going to attempt to resume posting approximately once a day.

I'm sorry.

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No probs, hope everything worked out ok for you.
Good to have you back.

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Welcome back, OF!

(and I hope Baba doesn't snore, becuase Linji sure does!)

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My internets acting up. It's been down since yesterday. It's up now, but I'm not sure for how long, so just bear with me.

EDIT: seems fine now.

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Hey hey! Still looking for players?

It's been a while since the last post so I'm not sure whether you're still lacking someone you'd like to replace. I'd be happy to write up any sort of character role the group might be in need of, or go with some of my weirder ideas for spice. :^)

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