Savage Tide Ending... Canon? (spoilers)

Well, it says at the end of p. 96: "Even if the PCs manage the near-impossible and slay him on his home plane, the ex-Prince of Demons will not remain dead for long. Like Obox-ob and Orcus before him, it's only a matter of time before Demogorgon returns to the Abyss, whether grown from the shell of a surviving aspect, resurrected by a loyal and powerful minion, or even spontaneously reformed by the Abyss itself."

I guess he's "officially not dead for long" or something like that.

I do like Maanzecorian. I also like Dragon Magazine's suggestion that the mooncalves were created from Maanzecorian's corpse.

As for Demogorgon, it depends on what the outcome of the adventure is. It doesn't have an official ending. It could be that the PCs get the crap beaten out of them in first level and never make it to the Abyss, in which case Demogorgon's two heads may have merged, leaving him the King of the Abyss and a greater deity.

It's also possible the PCs succeed in thwarting the Savage Tide, but don't succeed in killing or dethroning Demogorgon.

Planewalker's staff decided to endorse the death of Vlaakith as "official" after much discussion, because they thought it made an interesting story. Vlaakith isn't officially dead in Wizards of the Coast products, however - she's still mentioned as very much alive as recently as the new villains book that came out last month.

I don't think Savage Tide will have any impact on official WotC stuff unless Erik Mona or James Jacobs end up writing any of it (James Jacobs is still writing Demonomicons, so it's possible). What Planewalker intends on doing is something to discuss in the forums, and is largely theoretical anyway unless someone intends on writing an adventure involving Demogorgon as an official Planewalker product.

I agree. I have no real opinions on most of the outcome (as I'm not terribly familiar with the adventure path), but I vote we keep Demogorgon. Hell, I vote that campaign settings without him gain Demogorgon, that's how cool he is.

I also do not know adventure details, but his "death" would be mayor event and power shift in Abyss.

For example Dagon would claim entire layer wich he shared with Demogorgon.

Demogorgon´s fate after his "death"? Here is some of ideas:

1. He would defintly return in one shape or another, his minions and cultist would see to that, even Orcus (after he croaked for second time from last word) had to depend on litlle guys for his ressurection.
2. Without intrervention of mortal minions (or divine minions) considerable time should pass for his essence to recover and reform, 666 years prehaps.
3. His "death" is only rebirth into new form, wich should be apropriate since demons are beings of chaos: Demogorgon´s personalites have split into seperate bodies and finaly can folow their separate agendas and goals, or he returns without body at all but rather as formlless driving will of all demonkind, unseen pupeteer of countlles legions.

EDIT: Some one should put end to those epic adventure paths, they start as ok ideas, but eventualy true villan behind the plot (usualy some evil god or demon lord) is revealed and PC have to kill him. I mean they have offed Vlakith, Kyuss, and now Dmogorgon. Who is next? If they keep that way soon none of good old archvillans will remain.
SAVE THE ABYSSAL LORDS!!!

Why not? It is good idea as any other. He is chaotic and crazy enough to do it, and near death experience could change his dispositon toward life.

But who in the multiverse would belive him? "Hi, my name is Demogorgon and would you like me to help you across the street ´maam?" It would be fishy from the start, not to mention that other Abyssal Lords would want to put him out of his mysery.

Onother option is that he become true neutral power (near death has made diference between his personalities even more extreme),with one personlity LG and another CE that balance each other into true neutrality (something like demonic version of "Harvy Dent" (aka Two Face from Batman).

I was also thinking of an idea that. Maybe there should be entities out there that have been to both extremes of the spectrum and have swung verry far multiple ways. So, an Abyssal lord becomes a high up celestial then falls into a arch devil and then becomes a high up beast lands thingy (Ugh my upper planar hierarchy is abysmal) then perhaps they all eventually end up remaining as incredibly powerful true neutral entities that prefer to remain that way?