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Quick Question 1: DNA?

This is a line of threads which answers some basic question and/or assumption about Urban Planescape that Kal feels would be helpful to know for writing content. Each Quick Question thread is an individual question to be discussed/answered. All of the Quick Question are numbered, so please try to follow the sequence when posting your own Quick Question. A F.A.Q Quick Questions thread is here(it will be after we get an anwser to question no 1), which holds the answers to the question already answered. When posting your own Quick Question, please include this paragraph at the beginning before you pose your question.

Quick Qestion: Do Outsiders, Powers etc have DNA?

Simple eh? It makes a big diffenerce. It they do have DNA, then Genetic engineering technology would be of interest to some of them, but if they dont have DNA, they would probably not bother with it. This continues further into the realm of criminal invesitgations and 'bioscanner' technology. The scanner may or may not exist, but as any outsider which tried to use such a device to get into a seal research room for exmaple, wouldnt get very far without DNA...

I say, yes they do have DNA, as they are still a collection of biological cells. Their DNA merely evolves due to belief causing mutation, instead of natural selection. What do you guys think?

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Quick Question 1: DNA?

Though I could see them having genetic material, I dont know if Id go as far as to define it (ie, DNA).

Some things that make me question the whole idea of Mortal DNA (mDNA) being found in the Powers is the fact that they do not reproduce like we do, and thusly have no need for a chain of genetic codes designed to control their growth/evolution.

I could however see some of these beings, Outsiders especially, would have something like Immortal DNA (iDNA), which functions similarly to DNA (in terms of its functions) but on a much more complex level.

Perhaps, as you said, their iDNA is (in the Powers' case) is a constantly mutating/evolving 'code', its exact orientation being defined by the belief of its servants.

With outsiders, perhaps their iDNA is orientated via their Plane of origin; altering/evolving to allow the organism to adapt to the various Planes- this could explain how many creatures seem to have a racial alignment, as their very genetic material is infused with chaos (demons), evil (demons/devils), good (celestials), law (modrons/formians); whatever their plane was their point of origin.

Occasionally, the iDNA does not orient itself properly, resulting the rare 'good' demon, chaotic devil or evil celestial- these are basically genetic mutations which have managed to run rampant and have affected the being's evolutionary path.

I could see, if this were the case, something very similar to the Anti-Mutant movement from the X-Men storyline- perhaps a large number of these 'genetic mutations' occur, the results being a large number (far larger than normal) of some variant thats not normally seen- a large number of good demons/devils, or a mass amount of corrupted celestials.

These 'mutants' are in turn hunted by certain members of their own kind, fearful of that which they simply cannot understand (the reason for this being not only that they dont WANT to, but that THEY are, genetically, unable to accept such ideas).

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Quick Question 1: DNA?

Interesting!

I would say that yes, they do have something like DNA. Otherwise, what is it that makes an Aasimar an Aasimar? Like wise for Genasi, Tieflings, half-fiends. cambions, and so on. If they don't have DNA that is at least in some way compatible with Human DNA, then those half-breeds wouldn't be possible, or at the very least they would be sterile.

Thankfully, modern technology isn't yet capable of genetically engineering something as complex as a human being, otherwise you'd have to answer the question of test-tube tieflings. That might be an interesting concept if someone was doing a D20 Future Planescape, as the possibility for genetically engineered planetouched goes up.

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Hrm.... I can see the T'nari or Baatezu having some form of crude gene manipulation programs as they try to to create the perfect demon/devil. the idea of IDNA sounds pretty cool. Thumbs up from me.

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'Karno_Fevik' wrote:
I would say that yes, they do have something like DNA. Otherwise, what is it that makes an Aasimar an Aasimar? Like wise for Genasi, Tieflings, half-fiends. cambions, and so on. If they don't have DNA that is at least in some way compatible with Human DNA, then those half-breeds wouldn't be possible, or at the very least they would be sterile.

Way I figured it, they don't have any form of DNA at all-- since there's no indication that they reproduce amongst themselves, they change forms based on social considerations, and regardless of what form-- from hound archon to astral deva, or vrock to balor-- they all pass down the same set of traits to their mortal descendants.

Outsiders and Elementals mating with Humanoids (or any other biological creature) simply isn't a biological process at all. Raises the question of where the other half of the child's DNA comes from... but it seems to put to rest other more difficult questions. It especially helps with the issue of anatomical incompatibilities and the resulting squick.

'Karno_Fevik' wrote:
Thankfully, modern technology isn't yet capable of genetically engineering something as complex as a human being, otherwise you'd have to answer the question of test-tube tieflings. That might be an interesting concept if someone was doing a D20 Future Planescape, as the possibility for genetically engineered planetouched goes up.

Actually... I've been working on something along the lines of d20 Future Planescape-- since before d20 Modern came out-- with the idea of combining Planescape with the Star*Drive campaign setting from Alternity. Of course... all of the hardcore genetic engineers in that setting became rather intensely curious about some of the forms of reproduction evident in magical settings, ranging from the fact that nearly all humanoids in the Planes are interfertile, to the fact that Dragons, Outsiders, and Elementals seem capable of crossbreeding with just about anything.

The way I see it, planetouched traits simply aren't reproducible via scientific means, but they're not incompatible with mutations-- either natural mutations or genetically engineered traits. The Thuldans are of mixed opinion as to whether or not to pursue these elements for their bloodlines, though they're probably far more comfortable with Dragons and Elementals.

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