Planescape: Torment and Modern Sigil

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Hello. This is my first time posting here so I apologise if I do something wrong, okay? I was first introduced to Planescape by the Black Isle computer game "Planescape: Torment" and ever since I found this place there have been questions rattling around inside my skull. The first two are simple:
*What impacts have the events from Planescape Torment had in Sigil/on the planes, both officially and in your campaign?

*What would the stats for The Nameless One and the party-member NPCs (Annah-of-the-Shadows, Morte, Fall-From-Grace, Nordom, Dak'kon, Vhailor & Ignus) be in 3.5 edition?

*I was thinking that by using certain skills, characters could hear a little of "The Tale of The Nameless One"- the "adventurers" of TNO and companions. What sort of skills could be used for this, and what actual things could the characters hear (dependant upon the DC of the check)?

*What might have been the fate of TNO's companions after the Fortress of Regrets? Might they still be alive and, if so, what might they be doing?

The latter two questions especially are relevant to my upcoming campaign. For those interested, in the "Torment background" I intend to use, The Nameless One journeyed with Morte, Annah, Dak'kon, Nordom and Vhailor, freed Ignus to learn his spells and then slew him in the Fortress of Regrets, unlocked all of the Unbroken Circle of Zerthimon and made the "Declaration of Two-Deaths-as-One", persuaded Nordom to become "better", pursued the "romance" with Annah-of-the-Shadows and persuaded the Prior Incarnations & The Transcendant One to merge with him. Also, all of his companions survived the Fortress of Regrets (or were resurrected after the Transcendant One killed them anyway).

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I don't think it's technically canon... but yeah, it was my introduction to Planescape as well. My first time posting as well. I think. If I posted before this, I forgot.

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'Shadow of Torment' wrote:
*What impacts have the events from Planescape Torment had in Sigil/on the planes, both officially and in your campaign?

None, officially.

Unofficially, well, Shr'akt'lor would be gone, maybe for good, which would definitely change things for the githzerai. Ravel might escape her maze and become a threat again. The Smoldering Corpse Bar wouldn't have Ignus in it anymore, except possibly as a customer (or owner?). Pharod would be dead, replaced by one of his underlings (or possibly replaced by Annah?).

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*What would the stats for The Nameless One and the party-member NPCs (Annah-of-the-Shadows, Morte, Fall-From-Grace, Nordom, Dak'kon, Vhailor & Ignus) be in 3.5 edition?

The Embermage prestige class from Malhavoc Press's The Book of Eldritch Might would be perfect for Ignus.

Morte is a Baatific petitioner, albeit one with no arms or legs. In Dragon Magazine, he was a CG bard.

Annah's a rogue.

Fall-From-Grace is a Lawful Neutral succubus cleric. Some of her evil succubus powers would be gone. For cleric domains, I'd recommend Healing and Knowledge.

For Dak'kon, Rhys created a zerth prestige class.

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What sort of skills could be used for this, and what actual things could the characters hear (dependant upon the DC of the check)?

Local history, I think. It'd be good to not make the campaign too much about Planescape: Torment, because the PCs are supposed to be the stars. If Ravel is an important antagonist, they might be able to make Local History checks to find out that she once sealed away someone's mortality, and that she once tried to conquer Sigil using the Shadow-Sorcelled Key. At an extremely high DC (50 sounds good), they might find out that the man whose use of the Shadow-Sorcelled Key created the Lower Ward was also probably the same as the man whose mortality Ravel stole.

Not much else in the actual plot would really be important to a new set of characters.

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Might they still be alive and, if so, what might they be doing?

Sure, they could be alive. Maybe Annah's the new leader of the Collectors, Grace is back running the Brothel of Intellectual Delights, Dak'kon is helping to rebuild Shr'akt'lor, and Ignus is the new owner of the Smoldering Corpse Bar (and a respected businessman!). Morte could be a tout helping introduce the Clueless to Sigil, for a price.

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The backstory I use for things happening about 80+ years after Faction War for a Steampunkish Planscape is that the God-King Zaerith had a revolution against his rule. One of the members of the revolution was Dakkon who was accompanied by Nordom, Morte, Annah and Fall-From-Grace. Zaerith stepped down from ruling the Githzerai and agreed to live in exile as a result of the revolution. A council now governs from Shrak'tlor which Dakkon is a member of.

Morte, Annah and Nordom have sort of been laying low, after their role as Dakkon's companions. Since I never really thought of what they'd be doing if they're still around. For all you know Nordom a chaotic neutral Modron might have his own cult or something.

Fall-From-Grace is back at the Brothel Of Intellectual Delights, and is a member of Ishtaritu training newer members on the more intellectual pursuits.

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Was Nordom Chatoic? I thought he was still Lawful, just not as much as all the other modrons. I'm replaying the game, but I haven't gotten that far yet becuase stupid life and school keep distracting me from obviously more important matters. Smiling

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Yes Nordom was Chaotic Neutral, it says so with his in game stats. And while we're at it Morte was CG, Fall From Grace, Dakkon and Vhailor were LN and the rest with Annah and Ignus were CN.

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I personally always figured Morte would be an Extraplanar Undead, perhaps with levels in Bard & Jester? But a Baatorian Petitioner works as well, given that he was wrenched from the Pillar of Skulls.

So has anyone converted the stats of Morte, Annah, Dak'kon, Fall-From-Grace, Nordom, Vhailor or Ignus to 3.5 ed rules? Because I'd like to see them if possible.

On a slightly different tangent; has anyone here ever considered utilising "unmortality" (the Nameless One's "gift") in their games? Either as a plot point behind an important NPC or as a goal for (epic-level?) characters to pursue? I have a (very) rudimentary Unmortal template floating around if anyone's interested...

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