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The Wisdom penalty of the githyanki may well represent their impulsive personalities, but it makes them especially vulnerable to the powers of their first and foremost enemy. So here is my take to solve this problem.
Please check my feat whether it is good or bad, or too strong/weak (and post suggestions for a better wording of its text, if necessary.). Smiling

Will of Gith
By following the path of Gith the Liberator you do not only hone your fighting skills, but you also strengthen the force of your will to defend your mind against the mental powers of your enemies.
Prerequisites: Githyanki, Iron Will.
Benefit: You add a bonus equal to 1/2 your base attack bonus (minimum 1) on Will saves to resist spell-like abilities and spells (or powers) that affect your mind, such as charm person, charm monster, or mind blast.
Special: A fighter can select this feat as one of his fighter bonus feats.

edit: Yes, it know, that this *technically* isn't an RP topic... but its full of story-related stuff...

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'Calmar' wrote:
The Wisdom penalty of the githyanki may well represent their impulsive personalities, but it makes them especially vulnerable to the powers of their first and foremost enemy. So here is my take to solve this problem. Please check my feat whether it is good or bad, or too strong/weak (and post suggestions for a better wording of its text, if necessary.). Smiling

I admit, I do find the following ironic:

1) The githyanki racial Wisdom penalty lowers their base Will saves, which is obviously important when fighting illithids.
2) According to 3.0 rules, their 'free' psionic defense, empty mind, actually INCREASES their vulnerability to mind blasts!

They DO have psionic power resistance. This does help against mental domination, but not (in the 3.0 ruleset) against mind blasts.

They probably have developed some ways to get around it. (Psicrystals of Resolve are your friend.) Gith(yanki/zerai/pirate)s also seem more likely than any other race to have access to the Quick Recovery feat, which is really one of the best mind blast defenses out there.

Gith(yanki/zerai) are also psionically aware, which (in 3.0 again) reduces the duration of a mind blast stun from 3d4 rounds to 1d4. That alone does a lot to help one's survival chances.

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I have some more crunchy criticisim. In general, scaleable bonus like this are the domain of prestiege classes and the like, but not feats. If you want to approach it this way, I'd recomend toning the bonuses down or applying them only to charm/dominate effects of ilthilids.

Instead, you should consider a fixed bonus (you could possibly allow the feat fo be taken again, it's effects stacking if you put a cap on the bonus which would be based on something like BAB)

I would personally suggest a +4 or a vs. charms/compulsions that allow SR/PR or a +10 vs all charms and compulsions cast by iltihlids, or a +4 vs all telepathy and enchantment spells/powers used by ilthilids. All of these bonuses would stack with iron will

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'weishan' wrote:
I have some more crunchy criticisim. In general, scaleable bonus like this are the domain of prestiege classes and the like, but not feats. If you want to approach it this way, I'd recomend toning the bonuses down or applying them only to charm/dominate effects of ilthilids.

Instead, you should consider a fixed bonus (you could possibly allow the feat fo be taken again, it's effects stacking if you put a cap on the bonus which would be based on something like BAB)

I would personally suggest a +4 or a vs. charms/compulsions that allow SR/PR or a +10 vs all charms and compulsions cast by iltihlids, or a +4 vs all telepathy and enchantment spells/powers used by ilthilids. All of these bonuses would stack with iron will

I'd like to point out what anything like this (either post) would be like when paired with the Illithid Slayer prestige class.

Edit: You know, you could also change the bonus vs charms to be "against aberrations" rather than "against illithids." It'd still be specialized, but useful against more than one race.

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1) Equip a bow or crossbow.
2) Roll a natural 1 on d20.
3) ?????
4) Profit!

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True, it depends on the campaign though. Everyone would take this feat in BoGR for example.

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'weishan' wrote:
True, it depends on the campaign though. Everyone would take this feat in BoGR for example.

The 6 million gp question for githyanki:

Can dimension door (or dimension slide, whichever) be used to break a grapple?

I would guess it probably can, but the Concentration DC would be around 24.

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BoGr Guide to Missile Combat:
1) Equip a bow or crossbow.
2) Roll a natural 1 on d20.
3) ?????
4) Profit!

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'Calmar' wrote:
The Wisdom penalty of the githyanki may well represent their impulsive personalities, but it makes them especially vulnerable to the powers of their first and foremost enemy. So here is my take to solve this problem. Please check my feat whether it is good or bad, or too strong/weak (and post suggestions for a better wording of its text, if necessary.). Smiling

Will of Gith
By following the path of Gith the Liberator you do not only hone your fighting skills, but you also strengthen the force of your will to defend your mind against the mental powers of your enemies.
Prerequisites: Githyanki, Iron Will.
Benefit: You add a bonus equal to 1/2 your base attack bonus (minimum 1) on Will saves to resist spell-like abilities and spells (or powers) that affect your mind, such as charm person, charm monster, or mind blast.
Special: A fighter can select this feat as one of his fighter bonus feats.

edit: Yes, it know, that this *technically* isn't an RP topic... but its full of story-related stuff...

One thing... I wouldn't tie it to BAB, or add it to the list of fighter feats. Fighter (and related classes) are designed to have low Will saves. It's part of the package (like some classes having d4 hit dice and poor armor). A feat to improve their Will saves is OK, but I wouldn't tie it into the fighter class mechanics that way.

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BoGr Guide to Missile Combat:
1) Equip a bow or crossbow.
2) Roll a natural 1 on d20.
3) ?????
4) Profit!

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Well... your arguments are quite... good. Looks like my feat is nonsense. I just had the lower levels in mind. Mayhap throwing some levels of psion in your githyanki already does the job. Shocked Laughing out loud

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