how high up Celestia can I go if not LG am curious since it seems to focus around internalizing moral lessons.
how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Tue, 2012-01-24 21:45
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how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Wed, 2012-01-25 19:11
#3
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Yeah, a CE character would likely feel physically sick and a CE outsider would go insane on Celestia before long, assuming they survived long enough. My take on it for once is actually the same as Palomides's.
Sun, 2012-02-05 20:21
#4
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Bahamut's Palace is a shortcut, since it wanders through the first four levels. Of course, that route "merely" involves bypassing varyingly curious dragons...
Depending on how you see the layers as being connected, going up beyond that might be more of a chore.
Sat, 2012-03-03 16:55
#5
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
I seem to remember there is a C/E retired sorcerer who lives on Lunia (3 ed Manual of the Planes)
Thu, 2012-03-08 03:44
#6
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Generally no one who does not pass the tests of ''goodness'' can go beyond the first layer, I think Planes of Law mentions there are secret ways and portals to bypass that.
Thu, 2012-08-09 15:53
#7
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Sorry to ressurect this OLD thread of mine but had another similar question or two
Any idea on ways that a Chaotic Good person trying to climb mount celestia could find it more problematic in some ways, less in others, then a lawful evil person.
Thu, 2012-08-09 16:58
#8
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Perhaps a CG person suffers mental damage while a LE person would suffer physical?
Thu, 2012-08-09 17:56
#9
Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Perhaps it's easier and more intuitive for a lawful evil person to navigate -- he is more able to see where to go and how to get there. However, he is less likely to want to do it, or rather, more likely to object.
A CG person may be more impulsive and get into accidents or miscommunications that a lawful evil person will be able to avoid. ("Fly, kitty! You're free!" "Hey! Some idiot just unleashed the winglions!") However, they're probably going to be less dangerous than those the LE person does get caught in.
Travellers on Mt. Celestia are probably subjected to routine surveillance and restrictions on their activities. A LE person, a "tyranny" type, would find this perfectly acceptable morally, but probably much more inconvenient in terms of his actual objectives, than a CG person who would find the intrusion immoral but not be terribly hindered by it.
Thu, 2012-08-09 19:37
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Re: how far up Celestia can a non LG Person go?
Personally, I like the idea of the CG person suffering a sort of increasing mental confusion the higher up the mountain. He tends to get turned around and lost (often going downhill without realizing it) unless he focuses his mind (i.e. gets more "lawful")
I also like Jem's idea that a lot of the tests the CG climber will face will be failed not out of cruel intentions but from a lack of understanding of consequences
That's a good question.
I don't know how much of this opinion agrees with the canon material; but, my personal take on this was that while a non-LG should never be able to the ultimate realm from which there is no return (and what PC would want to?) I think that theoritically a non-LG could go up the seven levels although the tests, the local opposition and the ethical resistance (which would cause a physical unease within the climber) would increase exponentially the further the non-LG climbed (also based on how far away from LG the person was i.e. a CE would have a more difficult time than a NG)
I would never allow a non-LG (or perhaps) anyone to gate/teleport/etc. into any level above the shoreline (and preferably have them dropped into the cleansing/baptising/burning (for evil visitors) ocean). So that effectively, it would be VERY difficult for a person with a different ethos to make any appreciable distance up the mountain