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Thu, 2008-02-14 01:31
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For this release I fished out all the classes that had been submitted early in the PSCS project (before I was even on the scene!) and got them all cleaned up and coherent. Now our feats should have a dependency structure that functions properly with our prestige classes.

In addition, kriegstanz.com (currently offline) was kind enough to give us permission to use the classes and feats found at that site - which I had well before it went down.

So - chapters 3 and 4 are an amalgamation of those two sources of material. This is effectively the first draft of the prestige class material, so I'm looking for the usual feedback: Missed rules, flawed grammar and formating. Errata reports can also go to [REDACTED].

PSCS Chapter 3
Factions - This chapter introduces the 16 major factions of the multiverse, including the history of the factions and a detailed description of each group. This chapter also explains everything a player needs to know about being a member faction and using the material found in Chapter 4.

Download: (.pdf 1961KB) No images: (.pdf 1818KB) (.rtf 2912KB)

PSCS Chapter 4
Feats and Skills - This chapter contains updated and additional skills for a Planescape campaign. It also includes well over 100 new regional and faction feats, with about 9 feats per faction alone.

Download: (.pdf 1428KB) No images: (.pdf 1.11KB) (.rtf 1997KB)

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Thu, 2008-02-14 18:25
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That looks awesome! Pg 158 onwards of Chapter 3 are giving me an error that is preventing them from being read for what ever reason. It classified it as (14), if that helps at all.

Drake

Thu, 2008-02-14 19:25
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The font on the feats index is almost impossible to read.

Thu, 2008-02-14 22:19
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'weishan' wrote:
The font on the feats index is almost impossible to read.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. It's the same font as the rest of the chapter. Is there a contrast problem? A size problem?

Thu, 2008-02-14 22:19
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'Flame_Drake' wrote:
That looks awesome! Pg 158 onwards of Chapter 3 are giving me an error that is preventing them from being read for what ever reason. It classified it as (14), if that helps at all.

Noted - I shall kick it heartily and see if I can get that fixed.

edit: I wasn't able to replicate this on my home copy. So I'll download a copy and see if my upload to the site was flawed. Is anyone else seeing this problem?

Thu, 2008-02-14 23:13
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'Clueless' wrote:
'Flame_Drake' wrote:
That looks awesome! Pg 158 onwards of Chapter 3 are giving me an error that is preventing them from being read for what ever reason. It classified it as (14), if that helps at all.

Noted - I shall kick it heartily and see if I can get that fixed.

edit: I wasn't able to replicate this on my home copy. So I'll download a copy and see if my upload to the site was flawed. Is anyone else seeing this problem?

The problem seems to be fixed, I can get past 158 now.

Drake

Thu, 2008-02-14 23:59
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Ah good then - might have been a temporary hiccup. Okies. I'll consider that one off the board until someone else sees it happen too.

In the meantime that leaves the font question. Are the bookmarks working on these copies for everyone else too?

Fri, 2008-02-15 05:43
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Bookmarks worked for me.

Tue, 2008-02-19 03:10
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A lot of Xaositect stuff references a random action spell. It seems to be a 3.0 spell that didn't entirely make it into 3.5 - I think it was effectively replaced by lesser confusion.

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Noted! Smiling Anything else?

Wed, 2008-02-20 08:35
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Priest of the great Unknown and Renewed Faith are the same feat.
Idem for Faithless Blessing and Divine resistence.

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Wed, 2008-02-20 09:53
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Thanks - there may be a number of those due to getting overlooked in editing. I consolidated as many of the ones as I could spot along the way, but extra eyes always helps.

Wed, 2008-02-20 11:03
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I found the Howler class's table a little hard to read. Mostly because the Speed of a Gale feature does not match the text. Also I don't understand why there is a seperate Unarmed BaB.

Wed, 2008-02-20 11:18
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*nodnod* I'll double check that one - I'm sure there's a reason for it but if there is then it could probably use a little explanation in the writeup. (Or if there isn't it needs revision.)

Fri, 2008-02-22 16:36
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'Wexquif' wrote:
Also I don't understand why there is a seperate Unarmed BaB.

Another weird 3e holdover, and a reference to the monk from said edition.

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Fri, 2008-02-22 17:14
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It's not as weird as you would think given 3.5 came out in the middle of development for the PSCS and therefore for some of these classes. So, for us it's more a matter of catching them and providing the right 3.5 alternatives. Thanks for the insight on where it came from - that gives me a good idea on how to fix it now. Eye-wink

Mon, 2008-02-25 21:32
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As just a small problem, in chapter 4, Complete the Cycle and The Cycle of Testing are very similar ans as a suggestion, in chapter 3, I think you should include the Illuminated in the sects section. Also, at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=307692 they have PrCs for the Incantifiers, Primals, the Prolongers, and the Opposition.

Mon, 2008-02-25 21:46
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Added to the list in both counts.

And thanks for pointing me in the direction of those classes - I'll see if their authors would be interested in letting us include them. Smiling

Wed, 2008-02-27 19:40
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'Clueless' wrote:
It's not as weird as you would think given 3.5 came out in the middle of development for the PSCS and therefore for some of these classes. So, for us it's more a matter of catching them and providing the right 3.5 alternatives. Thanks for the insight on where it came from - that gives me a good idea on how to fix it now. Eye-wink

I don't think it's weird that it was in the class, I think it was a weird and unwieldy mechanic Smiling

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