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What do you think would happen, if a person started helping out a dabus in doing his job? Without saying a word or having any intention beyond whatever the dabus's is?

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'Zeniel' wrote:
What do you think would happen, if a person started helping out a dabus in doing his job? Without saying a word or having any intention beyond whatever the dabus's is?
That's how dabus are born.

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Heh. I like that.

If that's not the case, though, my guess is that one of two things would happen.

Either A) the Daubus would continue to ignore you, work around you, and go back and re-do the part you did when you left or B) they would work around you, and if you weren't doing it quite right would try to instruct you in the proper manner of completing the task.

I still like the idea that you just keep doing it, finding it more and more enjoyable until you notice your feet aren't touching the ground anymore. Then your new friend leads you off into undersigil to get your new uniform. . .

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'Hymneth' wrote:
I still like the idea that you just keep doing it, finding it more and more enjoyable until you notice your feet aren't touching the ground anymore. Then your new friend leads you off into undersigil to get your new uniform. . .
Which raises the question: What happens if you're a bariaur?

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I was thinkin you would either get the usual treatment i.e mazing or flaying, or something else like maybe become a dabus. Then again maybe merely asking this question is enough to get one mazed. Argh my head.

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Most likely you'd have rebuses coming at you asking "What are you doing?" I don't *think* you'd get mazed or flayed for being helpful.

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Yeah. Most likely even if you followed a dabus around and undid everything it tried to do, it would just get a little cross with you and ask you to leave. Mazing is really a pretty rare event if you get down to it, and usually requires something along the lines of Aoskar worship, or dabus murder, or trying to destabilize Sigil.

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The idea that a truly deidcated person might become a dabus is the best idea I've heard in ages. Sincere congrats.

Since you don't get mazed for normal building work in the Cage, I don't see maintaining the city as being something that would get you into trouble with the Lady. Most likely the Dabus would ignore you for quite a while, eventually starting to treat you as a fellow worker...

'Iavas' wrote:
Which raises the question: What happens if you're a bariaur?

They become a satyr. Laughing out loud Satyrs are just talkative dabus on their day off! Hooves under those robes man. Tell the people! The truth is out there- dragged off by Harmonium for questioning....

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Hmm I think we may have found the missing Dabus link! Seriously though I would think that talking about her serenities janitors would be a little risky. Surely they know something we don't know.

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It can't be *that* risky. They're a bid hard to avoid. Not to mention that Fell's managed to run a business and be a factioneer for centuries now, without problems.

I think that people are so frightened of the Lady that they're cautious around *everything* about her. Her punishments are incredibly harsh, and she gives no warnings. So things like talking to the Dabus or waving to her as she passes are probably perfectly permissible, but only really brave or barmy berks would actually try it.

There's probably a healthy supply of urban legends about people who did seemingly innocent things and got mazed or flayed, but I think that actual instances of either are quite rare.

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*Possible spoilers for Faction War and Harbinger House*

The only *actual* flayings or mazings I can remember in PS cannon (I'm sure I'm missing quite a few) are the cult of the Lady in Harbinger House, the villains at the end of Harbinger house, if things turned out in a specific manner, and dang near every Faction leader in Faction War. Skall didn't even seem to mind all that much, if I recall correctly

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Why would Skall mind? Surely to do so would have been a little too passionate?

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'Hymneth' wrote:
The only *actual* flayings or mazings I can remember in PS cannon (I'm sure I'm missing quite a few) are the cult of the Lady in Harbinger House, the villains at the end of Harbinger house, if things turned out in a specific manner, and dang near every Faction leader in Faction War.
It depends what you consider to be cannon Planescape material. A quick search of the Sigil NPC database popped out a list of some people known to have been mazed by the Lady:

• Thirin Jecobs
• Aratik Melber the Mad
• Vartus Timlin
• Ravel Puzzlewell
• Jayk the Snake
• Karfhud
• Silverwind
• Tessali
• Theseus, a.k.a. the Amnesian Hero
• The Nameless One

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This Theseus is not supposed to be the mythical Greek hero, is he?
Could anyone tell me more about him, anyways, please? Smiling

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'Calmar' wrote:
This Theseus is not supposed to be the mythical Greek hero, is he? Could anyone tell me more about him, anyways, please? Smiling

From that PS novel a while back... I think it was called Pages of Pain. I didn't especially like it, because I don't like seeing the LoP's true nature being somehow involved with ancient Greek myth.

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'Zimrazim' wrote:
From that PS novel a while back... I think it was called Pages of Pain. I didn't especially like it, because I don't like seeing the LoP's true nature being somehow involved with ancient Greek myth.

Yeah, does not sound too good. Although the use of Greek myths itself fits pretty well with the Planescape setting in my opinion, since places like Hades or Olympus already are modeled after Greece mythology and because of the Greek's important role in the history of philosophy. Furthermore it adds well to the surreal flair of the setting. Smiling

But back to the main topic. There should be very well-hidden escape portals in each maze, right? has anyone (besides the Nameless One, maybe. But I have to discover that in the game by myself Eye-wink) ever managed to escape such a maze and how's the Lady dealing with such cunning people?

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I think there's one adventure in 'The Well of Worlds' in which the PCs wind up invading the Maze of the former factol of the defunct faction the Expansionists or somesuch. There's the possibility of the PCs letting him loose intentionally or accidentally, so that's one example, at least.

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Zimrazim wrote: From that PS novel a while back... I think it was called Pages of Pain. I didn't especially like it, because I don't like seeing the LoP's true nature being somehow involved with ancient Greek myth.

From what I can remember of Pages of Pain The Lady of Pain's nature wasn't affiliated Greek myth only a power was, she had had some businesses with at some point way back in time.. but the novel and especially the ending is quite blurry to me so I could quite well be wrong ...

@Calmar: Heh neat signature ^^

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'Calmar' wrote:
This Theseus is not supposed to be the mythical Greek hero, is he? Could anyone tell me more about him, anyways, please? Smiling
Yup, that'd be the one. Although in the novel, when he first shows up in Sigil, he's an amnesiac on a mission from Poseidon. Actually, he's one of only three Greek myth characters hinted at having visited Sigil. His girlfriend Ariadne also makes an appearance in the novel and, if I recall correctly, there's a fleeting mention made of Perseus is the Torment video game.

All in all, the inclusion of Greek myth is handled very well and isn't out of place considering that Mount Olympus and the Greek pantheon of Gods are firmly rooted in the campaign setting. And although Poseidon seems to want the Lady of Pain to think that she's possibly his daughter, in fact the Lady herself discounts the claim as fraudulent. By the end of the novel, you end up knowing few if any real facts about the LoP; which was the author's original mandate.

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There should be very well-hidden escape portals in each maze, right? has anyone (besides the Nameless One, maybe. But I have to discover that in the game by myself Eye-wink) ever managed to escape such a maze and how's the Lady dealing with such cunning people?
Lots of people have escaped their mazes over the years. *Warning Spoilers* In Torment, both Ravel and the Nameless One both seem more or less able to flee their mazes at will, though the former chooses to remain in hers. Theseus and Tessali eventually escape theirs and in Faction War adventure, it is shown that Rowan Darkwood uses a wish to escape his maze after a fashion.

All in all, the Lady seems content to ignore such escapees as long as they don't do something else to offend her.

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'Ambrus' wrote:
if I recall correctly, there's a fleeting mention made of Perseus is the Torment video game.
Yeah, he is mentioned when you buy the gorgon salve in the exotic items shop in the Clerk's Ward.

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@Calmar: Heh neat signature ^^
Thanks. Laughing out loud

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