A concept for a god

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A concept for a god

Nullinus
Overdeity
Symbol is a circle, completely clear.
Home plane is the Outlands
True Neutral
Portfolio: Doubt, Nothingness
Domains: Knowledge, Mind
Weapon: None

Nullinus is a curious deity. It was formed by all the atheists of the planes lack of belief. He isn't worshiped like most other gods, as it would of course weaken him. His philosophy, however is very common. He is on good terms with the Bleakers and Athar, for they were the main source of his existence.

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It's definitely an interesting twist on the usual notion of D&D deities. I'm curious as to whether the other gods view him as an abomination or a paradox of the Multiverse.

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In my campaign, I was working on creating a Demiplane of Paradox. This god would make a good resident.
If you wanted to broaden this god's portfolio, you could make him(?) the god of paradox and keep him paradoxically empowered by aethists

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His portfolio rings familiar of Zen Buddhism, too.
Though if you want to truly latinize his name, then make it "Nihilus" since Nihil is Nothing in Latin. Oh, and just to clarify, no, I am not FLUENT in any second language, but I've studied Japanese some and know quite a few Greek and Latin prefixes and suffixes that are used in science and such (and a few words in Latin, but not very many)

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Chaotic_Goth1431 wrote:
It's definitely an interesting twist on the usual notion of D&D deities. I'm curious as to whether the other gods view him as an abomination or a paradox of the Multiverse.
He is naturally opposed to all gods (Except Primus and whatever other gods that aren't worshipped), and the majority of the Outer Planes.

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I have beef with the name. This kind of faux Latin is just awfully cliché and looks lazy. If anything, simple Nihil would do better - he (it) is nothing and Nothing is its name.

Also " atheists' ", the grammatical error distorts the meaning of the sentence.

Another thing: forming a god from "lack of belief" runs counter to how the planes are supposed to work. What I think you meant was *deep breath* belief in the idea of not believing in anything. Moving on, for a deity to be on good terms with the Athar would require it to be very self-conscious, admitting being just an individual empowered a great deal by belief of others and not a primal manifestation of an ideal or somesuch (even though it is in this case). While a Bleakers-Church of Nihil could be good, contact between the god and any individual Bleaker would be distressing for the latter - if you find out you were fixated on nihilism so much it transformed from lack of belief to belief in nothing, you now know that The Bleak Cabal: You Are Doing It Wrong.

Minor note: Hyena, the latter half of your post is off-topic self advertising, try to keep that under control.

BRB, this gave me an awesome idea for an ice god of scientific inquiry.

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schpeelah wrote:
I have beef with the name. This kind of faux Latin is just awfully cliché and looks lazy. If anything, simple Nihil would do better - he (it) is nothing and Nothing is its name.

Also " atheists' ", the grammatical error distorts the meaning of the sentence.

Another thing: forming a god from "lack of belief" runs counter to how the planes are supposed to work. What I think you meant was *deep breath* belief in the idea of not believing in anything. Moving on, for a deity to be on good terms with the Athar would require it to be very self-conscious, admitting being just an individual empowered a great deal by belief of others and not a primal manifestation of an ideal or somesuch (even though it is in this case). While a Bleakers-Church of Nihil could be good, contact between the god and any individual Bleaker would be distressing for the latter - if you find out you were fixated on nihilism so much it transformed from lack of belief to belief in nothing, you now know that The Bleak Cabal: You Are Doing It Wrong.

Minor note: Hyena, the latter half of your post is off-topic self
advertising, try to keep that under control.
BRB, this gave me an awesome idea for an ice god of scientific inquiry.

1)Nihil is indeed a better name.

2)Yes, that is what I meant. He is formed from belief in nonexistence, not nonexistence of belief.

3)He is indeed very self conscious. In fact, I have the idea of him being much more powerful than he acts, but he doubts his power too much to try use it.

4)The Bleaks I think wouldn't be affected that much.

MORE IDEAS:

I have the idea of Nihil not being in the Outlands, but ruling a outer plane formed of belief in disbelief, without an alignment (not even true neutral). Here, the residents doubt the existence of any other plane, and they do pretty much nothing because they don't see any meaning in anything. But such a thing would ruin the balance of the Great Ring, and would be hard to do without stealing the Grey Waste's whole apathy and despair gimmick.

Some of Nihil's followers could act as villains. They see no meaning in anything, and at least some don't believe in the afterlife (and therefore divine punishment), so they take it as a licence to do anything they want.

Nihil would also be powered by radical Signers, who would see nothing unusual about him. If they think about how nothing truly exists but them enough, obviously something like that would happen!

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the latter half of your post is off-topic self advertising, try to keep that under control.

Sorry about that. Thanks for pointing that out.

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BRB, this gave me an awesome idea for an ice god of scientific inquiry.

Cryonax is not a true deity, but that's part of his sub-portfolio (not an official part of his portfolio, but definitely a part of his personality and drive-- every source save the Fiendish Codex 1 and Planescape Box/Planar Handbook that mentions Cryonax talks about his servants/slaves/what have you experimenting on creatures to create new minions for Cryonax's army, with the clear secondary intention of displaying that Cryonax, moreso than the other archomentals, is cruel and uncaring. Dragon 347 mentions that he's not very emotional and acts/seems aloof, so he's likely far more logical than emotional.)

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Technical comment: when posting homebrew content, it is customary to always update the first post with the newest version, all the clarifications etc.

Another thing I'm not sold on is the rank. Overdeity is reserved for supreme beings outside and above the politics of regular deities let alone mortals. I do not think that's what you're going for. Work out how much influence it should really have then assign something else. I think Intermediate rank would do fine for starters.

Also: nah, Cryonax doesn't work at all, he seems to just be your typical evil scientist. Let me explain my train of thought:

Doubt + atheists + knowledge + "curious deity"(first I read curious as in personality trait)= sceptics and science; this + nothingness and doubt = a Tabula Rasa approach, trust not the preachers and find out for yourself with methods that grant certainty.
Ice comes from Book of Elements (at dungeons.wikia.com), which introduces the idea of elemental alignments consisting of a few simple traits and possessed only by elementals and animals. Curiosity is, of course, attributed to ice, besides gives me a platform to build the deity's personality further AND to introduce some of the awesomeness from J. Dukaj's retro SF epic "Ice" which is something I've been itching to do for some time now.

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Yes, these are the enemies, but not your opponent one or two...

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