Drewl 
, sounds nice, albeit a little out of league with my own chars looks 
Plus, you'd have to tote it around, and you've got a big night ahead of you.
I graciously accept." I will allow your passing to be swift and easy
hehe, classical miscommunication? he allows her to escape easy?
passing as in allowing passage, not passing her on into the dead book...lol
Drewl , sounds nice, albeit a little out of league with my own chars looks
Plus, you'd have to tote it around, and you've got a big night ahead of you.
Aha, but we haven't killed our opponents yet, or have i?, no results about that yet 
Drewl , sounds nice, albeit a little out of league with my own chars looks
Plus, you'd have to tote it around, and you've got a big night ahead of you.
~...And I do my little turn on the catwalk, yeah on the catwalk, yeah, I do my little turn on the catwalk...
my initial Initiative was 21, and i "storywise" lowered it to 19 for posting later, now in my next post, in the 2nd part of the attack in the safe, do i get Ini 21 again or am i stuck at 19?, or do i roll again?
original init is OK
he was prone, if he wants to do anything i assume he has to get up from the prone position, does that give me a attack of opportunity?
I will use Close Quarter Fighting now..can i use quickdraw in addition?:
Quickdraw = free action, so...
Draw Large Morningstar and whack with aoo...
and i think i understand correct that if he tries to grab me with 4 tentacles, and the use impr grab, i get 4 times the opportunity to whack him, or just the one for the 1 person but it does count towards all max 4 grab attacks...?
remember for the Illithid that i have dam red. 5/+1 
so very little to no damage actually, can he even bite through my skin? :twisted: i mean +4 natural ac and dam redux is not making that easy
I will use Close Quarter Fighting now..can i use quickdraw in addition?:
Quickdraw = free action, so...
Draw Large Morningstar and whack with aoo...
and i think i understand correct that if he tries to grab me with 4 tentacles, and the use impr grab, i get 4 times the opportunity to whack him, or just the one for the 1 person but it does count towards all max 4 grab attacks...?
remember for the Illithid that i have dam red. 5/+1 so very little to no damage actually, can he even bite through my skin? :twisted: i mean +4 natural ac and dam redux is not making that easy
1 AoO per round, maximum. That is, unless you have combat reflexes feat, in which case 1 AoO per opponent, to a maximum of AoOs = dex mod per round. So still only 1 AoO in this case anyway.
Illithic head-grab works like thus (as per 3.0 rules, which I have) : Tenticles attack, the ones that hit are attached. The illithid can try to attach the rest with an opposed grapple next round (which does not itself provoke an AoO), if successful all 4 are attached. On its turn on the 3rd round, IF all 4 tenticles are still attached, the illithid rips out Ii's brain.
so very little to no damage actually, can he even bite through my skin? :twisted: i mean +4 natural ac and dam redux is not making that easyWell, since a tenticle does d4+1, Ii takes no actual damage. That is, the damage taken does not slow Ii down, not that the illithid can't get through her skin. I'd understand if you argued with me, but I think its a little extreme to say Ii can't be de-brained. Its just that she's so tough that the tenticle damage has no real effect on her combat-wise.
DR as listed has no effect on grapples. For that matter, all I'd have to do is rule Lavendar has a feat to increase tenticle damage, or apply a strenth mod, and Ii would possibly take some damage, which means anything accompanying the damage happens as well.
So: DM ruling is that Ii takes no HP damage from the tenticle attacks, but still has to worry about that 4 tenticle grapple.
Whack away, you close-quarter fighter, you ...
What is Ii's AC? I think all the tenticles hit, however I will rule that the illithid still needs to win a grapple ( +2 per tenticle on) for a round before it can extract on the third round.
That means at least two rounds of full attacks from Ii. Ya'shenn still gets an action in the fumble/tenticle/AoO round first, though.
For your info, the Illithid's AC is 13 right now. Touch AC 10.
Ii'Jika'Vaar's ac:
Splint mail +3
+9 ac, +0 max.dex., -6 a.c.p. 40% a.s.f. weight 45 lbs.
Total ac:
+9 armor, +4 natural = 23
+3 dex ac, but does not count atm in regards to normal ac...as armor does not allow, so touch 13
23
touch 13
Thought so, thanks.
What, does Ya'shenn get to attack Lavendar now?
Hey, I don't mind if Ii wants Lavendar to herself... just pointing out that there is some risk of the knight being debrained if that doesn't go well.
[DM - 'thid + rogue levels, 18 dex]
Pretty sure Street had about the same Dex, with his its 27 initiative. 
What, does Ya'shenn get to attack Lavendar now?
Smack it in the back of the head with the shield
2 of the 4 grapples i can fight of with no effort, you at least have to roll 1 grapple to see if u can beat my 31..
if not then you are still off me and i can attack you normally still...
Is Ii going to attack this round, or just resist the grapple?
Does she get debrained next round if Lavendar is still alive?
(I don't really want to post just yet. )
OK, here's the deal: Ii won the opposed grapple. This means the illithid DID NOT manage to attach the 4th tenticle, and cannot eat her brain just yet. I used the first grapple check for that.
Ii has a few options (choose one)
1) continue to attack the illithid (she would normally have to use a small weapon to do so, but close quarter fighting allows her to continue using the morningstar)
2) try and escape the 3 tenticles that are attached. This will require another opposed grapple roll (on Ii's turn). Since you already rolled multiple, I'll use the 2nd roll and roll for Lavendar. If Ii wins, she gets the illithid off her.
3) something else
EDIT: I can't find anything that says you get a bonus on the grapple check for the damage you did in the AoO, so Ii wouldn't have won the opposed grapple without that + 16 ( she only gets full attack with strenth bonus) if I had used the first roll. HOWEVER, I used the last roll, which DOES beat Lavendar's grapple, so still only 3 tenticles on (aren't I nice?)
Ii actually gets attacks before that opposed grapple (full attacks or escape attempts with full attack bonuses), as does Ya'shenn, if she wants to do anything.
I won't reveal HP totals, but a little info could help you make a decision. The illithid is severely wounded now, 25% or fewer HP.
Ii will get De-brained if Lavendar has 4 tenticles on at the beginning if its next turn. Before that happens, the following will occur:
1)Ii acts (this round)
2)Ya'shenn acts
3)Ii acts again (next round)
4)Ya'shenn acts again
5)Lavender tries to get tenticle 4 on again
6)Ii attacks againm
7)Ya'shenn acts again
8)Gy-Nath and Du'minh come running to the rescue. Big dip in Ii's personal honor if it comes to this, but they are free of their own combats by now and close enough to move-attack.
The feat Close Quarter Fighting gets me that ability, i have copied and send it to y'r email to clarify.
i think i got it slightly wrong, but so did my dm
i need more attacks of opportunity to keep each tentacle from grabbing me (as in: i can make a close quarter attack for each tentacle, if i was allowed to), but you do have to make opposed grapple checks for each tentacle, not auto grapple just after 1 attack..
EDITED
i need more attacks of opportunity to keep each tentacle from grabbing me (as in: i can make a close quarter attack for each tentacle, if i was allowed to), but you do have to make opposed grapple checks for each tentacle, not auto grapple just after 1 attack..
Illithid don't have to do a grapple for each tenticle. This might have changed in 3.5, but I have 3.0. Attack rolls vs AC, tenticles that hit are attached, then on later rounds only 1 opposed grapple check to attach "the rest of the tenticles"
However, I don't think it's fair to make Ii drop the morningstar, she can still full attack with it.
Still, only 1 grapple roll, so it doesn't matter if I take the first or last, you won, no more tenticles attached, but you'd have to initiate and win a grapple or Escape Artist check to get the illithid off you completely.
So, DM ruling is that the illithid hit with 3 tenticles, and failed to grapple-attach the 4th.
Just a comment, but I wouldn't mind if Ya'shenn (at some point soon) has a chance to do something about the large number of thralls that the party will probably be encountering within a few rounds. I'm not sure/don't recall how far each of the corridors outside the vaults extends, but as a ranged character, a round or two to toss a Negate Psionics (or AoE abilities/thrall-suppression toys) before they attack the vault might be nice.
Ya'shenn can't attack this illithid, and can't, at the same time, leave it alive, so I don't have much to do.
You can attempt to trip on an AoO, at least in 3.5.
I expect we'll be encountering more Tamers with 2h weapons and weapons with reach. (Spiked chain + Improved Trip maybe...)
Ya'shenn could assist me by picking up my blade and giving it to me ,. so i can use that to kill the scrapper off
Were u casting a spell or is it just words? i don't quite get it , Bards ability or what...
I will Kill him and then loot the place anyway :eatYou: , i do have a bag of holding
that will at least hold some of the stuff...
, Bards ability or what...
Manifested suggestion. They are psions, y'know.
hehe, okokok...
anyway, am waiting for Zimrazim to give an assisting hand in retrieving for me my weapon, and i will do a bluff on Lavender, to subtly receive my weapon in an non offensive way, so i can then hack him in pieces with it ...thats the idea anyway...(now off to work, see ya all tonight)
Hey, I'm still alive, guys. I got back tuesday, but then my house got hit by lightning, which killed the internet (among other electronic things). I'll read up on what's happened and then post.
Sorry for delay
- New Job
- Old Job
- 4th of July weekend
- writers' block
Azure, want me to make a Knowledge: Psi roll to see if Ya'shenn recognizes the suggestion? Speaking of which, is Ii actually being influenced (is the suggestion working)?
No problem Azure ,
Ehm, question, is the suggestion mandatory, or am i still in full control of my own mental faculties?, should i make a will save?
and to Ya'shenn, you are talking to me mentally, not verbally, right?
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Ehm, question, is the suggestion mandatory, or am i still in full control of my own mental faculties?
and to Ya'shenn, are you talking to me mentally, not verbally?
The not-very-friendly stuff, she's thinking to herself. The blue text is spoken, though. If Ya'shenn speaks telepathically, I preface it with a tilde, like ~this.
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Ehm, question, is the suggestion mandatory, or am i still in full control of my own mental faculties?
and to Ya'shenn, are you talking to me mentally, not verbally?
The not-very-friendly stuff, she's thinking to herself. The blue text is spoken, though. If Ya'shenn speaks telepathically, I preface it with a tilde, like ~this.
and whats with that? , 1 turn/round? (6 sec) is all i gave it, not 10 minutes
A shame she only thinks it... I would gladly tell her that i wanted to finish the Illithyd with the Nagamaki, as a matter of principle, not because i like dragging it on, the creature should have been dead now, for all Ii'Jyka cares..
, 1 turn/round? (6 sec) is all i gave it, not 10 minutes
A shame she only thinks it... I would gladly tell her that i wanted to finish the Illithyd with the Nagamaki, as a matter of principle, not because i like dragging it on, the creature should have been dead now, for all Ii'Jyka cares..
The combat is in round... 5 or so? (illithid hides in vault, mind blasts, grapple, suggestion x2, probably at least round 5)... and Lavendar screamed to Violet for help in round 1 or 2. Assuming Violet is in range (likely, It is on the same floor at least) and opts to fight and not flee, Ya'shenn figures there will be lots of thralls and/or a second very angry illithid in the room very soon. The fact that taking out Lavendar is taking so long is making her very frustrated.
Sure, DC 14 (i.e. fairly obvious)
Note also that conversation is a free action (rounds are variable amounts of time), but since it is technicly the same round, Lavenar's suggestion is the same (loot).
so only 6 seconds have passed? (i do know time warps in regards to perceiving time, specially in stressful situations like combat...)
note that: she was not gloating, she was merely buying time for herself to get her weapon back..., she wants to kill him with her main weapon, not some mundane piece of Masterwork Metal
I wish to grant this at least, any suggestions, not to gruesome and somewhat efficient?
I wish to grant this at least, any suggestions, not to gruesome and somewhat efficient?
I think Lavendar's intent here is that, if Ii delays long enough to torture him, either Lavendar actually has a chance to survive the encounter, or at least that Violet will be able to defeat the githyanki.
:gear_yuck: this is disgusting... (my icc post i mean)
(my icc post i mean)You know, I've kind of wondered what illithid 'naughty bits' look like. (They're pure hermaphrodites, lay eggs, and normally have no urge to mate -- no need to produce hormones. They're probably a bit 'different' from the humanoid versions.)
... but I've never been quite THAT curious. :twisted:
[Ugh, gross]
well yes, i have been thinking along similar lines, but in regards to how it must really feel like to hack someone apart in combat, we nowadays have no concept of this kind of danger, combat being as far as it is done, a far away and unemotional thing, bullets with massive range and weapons that are much more efficient...
we dont "see" the person die on our feet on average anyway...
I am not a pacifist (being a bouncer), but splitting someone in half is something altogether different...
I'm not the DM, but Daraz is not a telepath, so I doubt he 'heard' Lavendar trying to contact Violet. Ya'shenn, however, has informed the others that Violet is (most likely) on the way.
Note, tho, if I were Violet, I'd send some thralls into the room first.
That's why I atempt to play dead. It's the next best thing. 
euhm, tactical retreat or banzai?
I'm tempted to say, "Well, it's only a baby neothelid," but that sounds too much like "famous last words." 
I'm tempted to say, "Well, it's only a baby neothelid," but that sounds too much like "famous last words."
'it looks harmless enough, pad pad on the head, slurp - gobble hand gone aaaarg...'
"golden tower-shield with an embossd lion's head"
Drewl
, sounds nice, albeit a little out of league with my own chars looks 