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Who?

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Oh! Azure, just in case it comes up (I've been wondering this for some time):

Can dimension door break a grapple? I'm inclined to say yes, but it would take a Concentration check with a DC around 24, since it's a +20 DC to manifest while grappled or pinned.

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'Azure' wrote:
Who?

Eh, let's say Tamer Creed illithids in general. They're nasty. :mrgreen: :shock: :mrgreen:

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'Zimrazim' wrote:
Oh! Azure, just in case it comes up (I've been wondering this for some time):

Can dimension door break a grapple? I'm inclined to say yes, but it would take a Concentration check with a DC around 24, since it's a +20 DC to manifest while grappled or pinned.

Sounds OK to me.

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At least when it comes to the spell, its pretty clear that this is how it works.

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Sorry folks, I just cant do gibbering, mind-numbing horror on X-mas. I might post late tonight, but I'm still too jolly right now. Plus I got two new sourcebooks, Forgotten Realms Underdark and Elder Evils. Laughing out loud

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I have a mental image of a mind flayer with a Santa cap now...

(I got a sourcebook too!)

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Uh-oh, “Elder Evils” sound like it might add some of that Lovecraftian unimaginably unstoppable tentacled evil feel to the game…

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There's only one thing to say about that. 1d6 investigators per round. :shock:

And I got sourcebooks too! -- PDFs of most of the Planescape setting books that aren't adventures (all for about what the PHB costs). I also got a board game called Last Word. I did the evil laughter thing when I opened the box too. My family didn't get the joke. Sad

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Illithiad is still the best sourcebook. Cool Also, the illustrations are amazing (if you don't mind lots of illustrations of brain-sucking horrors, that is).

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There's only one thing to say about that. 1d6 investigators per round. :shock:
I feel ya', I've never played Call of Cthulhu, but skimming through the rulebook was enough to frighten me a bit.

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You remember that line in the Goblins comic about a readied action and an elevation bonus....?

:eatYou:

Edit: I would also like to give the DM credit for making a sewer pipe so terrifying. heh.

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Heh. Who wants to be the first to climb up there and stick his head into that pipe? (Frickin' illithids who actually use their 18+ Intelligence...)

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Just toss evocations up it one after another until something charred and vaguely humanoid falls out.

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Just toss evocations up it one after another until something charred and vaguely humanoid falls out.

A good point, but I'm not sure how much magical blasting power we have between the 4 of us, especially with Jhank'kor missing.

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Unfortunate your portable flamethrower's busy with some amatuer surgery at the moment Puzzled

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Unfortunate your portable flamethrower's busy with some amatuer surgery at the moment Puzzled

Mmm... fried calamari...

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I can cast BURNING HANDS! Yay for sorc 3 Puzzled

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I hope Dunamin is doing all right. (When I heard he was sick after a trip, my first thought was "international travel + something in the water...")

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Well, it might have been something in the water, I don't know, but I think my immune system has just about completely kicked it out.

My less-than-usual Planewalker frequency is more due to the connection here at my parents where I'm staying during the holidays, than the illness.

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OK, in case the others haven't thought of this hypothetical scenario:

Let's say our tentacled friend is actually up there. In these conditions:

* can't pepper it with missile fire
* can't surround and overwhelm it in melee
* perfect setup for mind blasting all four of us at once
* it mostly doesn't have to fight more than one of us at a time
* it also still has an avenue of retreat in case things go wrong

Basically, it would be playing to all of its strengths and none of ours. It would be inconsistent with the claws, though. (It could even be our flayer 'friend' plus a thrall creature up there. If it's just the thrall creature/beast/whatever, we'll mostly have an easier time of things. Probably.)

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Azure? Was Ar'dru's absence intentional? If it was I have new respect for evilDM.

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To tell the truth the choice was between "They've got a nondetection up." or "Yashenn sees 'em, but they've got a detect scry up." In retrospect, it would have been more exciting to go with choice 2, but I decided on more mystery and less action. Meh, trade-offs ...

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Azure? Was Ar'dru's absence intentional? If it was I have new respect for evilDM.

Nah, it's just how the plot fell. Of course, EvilDM accepts the complement nonetheless, and in the future will be working to meet your high expectations.

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I can't find a 'cowering in the corner' smiley.

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I can't find a 'cowering in the corner' smiley.

Indeed. A blaster would be lovely right now, but Jhank'kor is missing and Ar'dru just got out of Avernus. Ya'shenn really doesn't know all that much about the capabilities of the party, either -- especially not Vivec. (I'm guessing he has priest and rogue levels, but that's just a guess.)

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* perfect setup for mind blasting all four of us at once
Actually, there's not anything in the rules making mind blast transcend needs of line of effect - crawling behind a stunned gith filling most of the passage should shield you just as well as standing behind any solid obstacle.

I was going to bring it up in-game later when we approach the big raid, but it should be a viable tactic to approach an illithid military position under cover of tower shields. Not that this is relevant in a 4 ft pipe, of course.

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* perfect setup for mind blasting all four of us at once
Actually, there's not anything in the rules making mind blast transcend needs of line of effect - crawling behind a stunned gith filling most of the passage should shield you just as well as standing behind any solid obstacle.

I was going to bring it up in-game later when we approach the big raid, but it should be a viable tactic to approach an illithid military position under cover of tower shields. Not that this is relevant in a 4 ft pipe, of course.

Hmm. I've always assumed that, say, if you cast a Cone of Cold and have 3 people standing in a line within the cone's area of effect, all 3 are affected. It's a good question, though.

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I'd think since a mind blast is a psychic attack it'd affect everyone. In the case of cone of cold I'd personaly give the first person a save as normal, the next person evasion, the 3rd improved evasion, and anyone after that would be unnafected. Unfortunately I'm the first person. Sad

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Well, I thought it might be applicable here since this is noted to be cramped environment we're going to move through.

At any rate, lets avoid all four going through at the same time... Heh, perhaps we should tie rope around Daraz' feet, so we can drag him out in case he gets stunned.

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* perfect setup for mind blasting all four of us at once
Actually, there's not anything in the rules making mind blast transcend needs of line of effect - crawling behind a stunned gith filling most of the passage should shield you just as well as standing behind any solid obstacle.

I was going to bring it up in-game later when we approach the big raid, but it should be a viable tactic to approach an illithid military position under cover of tower shields. Not that this is relevant in a 4 ft pipe, of course.

Hmm. I've always assumed that, say, if you cast a Cone of Cold and have 3 people standing in a line within the cone's area of effect, all 3 are affected. It's a good question, though.

I would agree with Zim, for an area affect, you need to be able to target the area, not each individual within it.

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But if one of the creatures in the affected area take measures to break line of effect, by setting up a tower shield for instance, that would modify the area of effect, right? (assuming it isn't a spread effect)

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Well, an area affect effects an area. True, a mind blast a point of origin, so if the first warrior had, say, a lead shield ... but it would take at least an ogre to carry such a thing.

{edit - wheels, ya berk}

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so if the first warrior had, say, a lead shield ...

Woohoo! An excuse to post this link!

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*clicks the Refresh button hopefully.. though it's unwise to hurry the brain-sucking horrors out of nightmare DM*

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Oooh, interesting. (Thanks, ye DM.)

Sensors indicate that a double-sneak-attack (on the same target) might be in order? Just a thought.

Edit: Daraz might want to consider relaying that conversation 'verbatim' to the others (Mindlink is helpful that way).

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Incidentally, I really, really hate being a 3.0 psion with something like 3 power points right now. (sad face) Sad Sad Sad

Edit: Heh, if she survives this mess, I may well (ask to) redo her as a 3.5 build. She'd have nearly twice as many power points, and that's just for starters.

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Happy New Year guys!

Illithids with party hats for all!

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Same. Happy New Year. Smiling

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Ahahaha! While we're hunting ancestral enemies our very own fire-breather is working his way to some fellow dragon-bootay! Go, Az! :mrgreen:

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HOT dragon-on-dragon action! :mrgreen:

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Personally I'm still having nightmares about the conception of the Half gold dragon dog in the Draconomicon. *Shudders*

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I had been wondering about this "Nice DM" guy that Azure has been going on about lately. So unfamiliar, so alien in the midst of all our natural ones... And yet, somehow strangely comforting when you learn that Evil DM is still running the show, though.

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And yet, somehow strangely comforting when you learn that Evil DM is still running the show, though.

Evil DM scares me.

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Evil DM scares me.

He's doin' his job then.

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I'm not scared yet...

(everyone's gonna hate me now...)

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I'm not scared yet...

(everyone's gonna hate me now...)

You shouldn't tempt EvilDM like that. Heh. Trust me.

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Yea, as I recall, Rey and Daraz are stuffed in a pipe scant yards from two illithids and an intellect devourer. If they hadn't failed their checks to detect you ... Puzzled

:twisted: Hey, I've got an idea, they failed their checks to notice YOU :twisted:

{edit} oh look, one of the flayers rolled a 19 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

0 Bonus for to do
I rolled 1d20+0, the result is 4.
I rolled 1d20+0, the result is 19.
I rolled 1d20+0, the result is 8.
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{edit} oh look, one of the flayers rolled a 19 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Was it 'Portal' or 'Street,' I wonder?

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