"Bastion Of Broken Souls" vs "Magic of Incarnum"

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"Bastion Of Broken Souls" vs "Magic of Incarnum"

Doesn't the use of (in some cases) preincarnate souls by PCs and NPCs in the book "Magic of Incarnum" violate what was established in "Bastion of Broken Souls", where a deity was stripped of his power and imprisioned for attempting to tamper with preincarnate souls?!? In that adventure, all the gods were afraid that if they allowed him to do it, they would be punished as a group by some mysterious greater being (maybe an Overpower, or even God...) The point is, a big deal was made over it, and then "Magic of Incarnum" comes along and everybody and his dog can now tap into the power of souls... and YES, I know some Fiends use and sell souls, but in those cases the souls are of folks who've already lived once and passed on to the Outer Planes, not "brand-new" souls! What's your take on this, and do you use this book in your games?

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"Bastion Of Broken Souls" vs "Magic of Incarnum"

Remember, Incarnum wasn't designed with Planescape cannon in mind. I would personally say yes if any of my players asked me to justify why I don't feel the need to use the system.

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"Bastion Of Broken Souls" vs "Magic of Incarnum"

Bastion of Broken Souls says nothing about what mortals do with preincarnate souls. The Ban of the Unborn applies only to gods. The whole point of that rule is to give an explanation for why the PCs fix the whole problem of "big dragon eating all the souls" instead of the gods do it.

There's a whole ecology in the Positive Energy Plane based on eating preincarnate souls. It's absolutely fine (not necessarily moral, but not subject to any universal prohibition) for mortals to do this. Only the gods are prohibited.

And yeah - Magic of Incarnum doesn't really have anything to do with Bastion of Broken Souls anyway. The two products weren't really created to play well together.

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DUH!

DUH! Of course, that is the answer! What a berk of a fool am I... :oops:

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