A few notes on prime world accessibility.

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

Not all primes are created equal when it comes to getting to them. Most planars think that getting to a prime is as easy as buying a planeshift or hopping a more convenient portal or gate. This however only reaches some prime worlds, and quite possibly the minority of them.

Those primes are are accessible by a simple planeshift spell or gate, are said to be shallow primes. The harder it is for a mage or cleric to reach a prime via spell the "deeper" that prime is said to be.

Most of the time a prime's depth acts as spell-resistance against all incoming and outgoing spells which travel between planes. This resistance is usually lessened for travel between coterminous planes such as were a prime world and the ethereal overlap. Also deep primes also tend to have fewer naturally occurring portals to the outer planes in them as well, thus less exposure to the planar populous.

Also I've found some planes that are very deep but are inter-connected with one another through naturally occurring portals as well as through their mages being able to gate and plane-shift from one prime to another. It may be that the outer-planes are just a larger than usual cluster of primes.

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

Works for me.

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

Care to expand on what you might find on deeper prime layers or the mechanics for it?

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

'Clueless' wrote:
Care to expand on what you might find on deeper prime layers or the mechanics for it?

Oh indeed I plan to. I just have to do a bit more work on it in my head first.

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

Properties of deep primes.

Here's a bit more.

Well first on this subject one must say that the properties of so-called deep prime worlds are just as varied, and perhaps are more varied as those that are shallow. The only similarity that connects them all is the fact that it is harder to planeshift or gate to them than other primes.

One thing that has been noticed in the exploration of deep primes is the shunting off of them when a planeshift is not successful. The shift goes off but instead brings the caster to a similar shallow or shallower primeworld. Indeed there have been several groups of deep primes found that are very similar to one another, right down to the geography and even individuals living on those worlds. These primes appear to be alternate versions of each other, and are among some of the hardest for our scholars to reach.
There is the very real chance that our explorers have visited more primes that have alternates and simply have not discovered the alternate versions of them yet. Another, hotly debated theory suggests that perhaps every plane has alternate versions of itself. There may even be alternate versions of Sigil and the upper planes, though there are rumors about this so far no credible evidence has come to light. One noticeable tendency among the more easily reachable alternate primes is a propensity towards chronomancy and time travel. Perhaps the practice causes fractures in the fabric of the plane eventually leading to the prime splitting into two different worlds.

Another startling discovery with alternate primes is the fact that they exist even for shallow planes. One notable one is for the prime of Torril. The shallow version is known in some circles for producing a few very powerful mages, though the plane is relatively indistinctive in other respects. However the alternate version that has been found seems to be connected to an entirely separate cosmology. There seems to be bleed over in the two primes as the older and less refined texts on planar travel in the shallow Torril seem to refer to the deeper's cosmology.

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

*bump*

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

Why not use the concept of "Deep Primes" as a mechanic of how similar the magical/technological frameworks are to the SDP (Sigil Default Paradigm). The FR plane uses very similar magical rules. Athas does not. And (cough) GURPS or Earth Prime are extremely different, thus almost inaccessible. So a mage could very well get the stars aligned, gather his magical supplies, LEAP to the Deep Prime...and get stuck for a very long time because his magic doesn't work there. This makes some Primes magical sargassos.

Just some rambling

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A few notes on prime world accessibility.

'Wretch' wrote:
Why not use the concept of "Deep Primes" as a mechanic of how similar the magical/technological frameworks are to the SDP (Sigil Default Paradigm). The FR plane uses very similar magical rules. Athas does not. And (cough) GURPS or Earth Prime are extremely different, thus almost inaccessible. So a mage could very well get the stars aligned, gather his magical supplies, LEAP to the Deep Prime...and get stuck for a very long time because his magic doesn't work there. This makes some Primes magical sargassos.

Just some rambling

I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but I think that is what it is used for.

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