4e Shardminds as PC Tsnng?

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4e Shardminds as PC Tsnng?

The Shardminds of the 4e's PHB3 do remind me of one particular monster from PSMCIII, that being the Tsnng of the Quasi-Elemental Plane of Mineral. Now while I know they are conceptually quite different from each other, Tsnng being a bunch of natives of Mineral, and Shardminds being fragments of the Gate to the Far Realm. I see it as being quite possible, for using Shardminds to represent Tsnng, not that I ever saw anyone really wanting to play one.

Though they seem to match up in general appearance, I know their abilities don't quite match up, and I don't think any of the Tsnng's abilities back in 2e were ever meant as PC material. But I guess you could replace the Shard Swarm ability with some ability to increase the next attack by a bunch of psychic damage, but that just doesn't seem all that interesting compared to the Shard Swarm Power (which is to explode into a bunch of crystalline shards and reform a few squares away).

If you want they can be the same race, an offshoot of each other, or something completely different as far as the story goes. Who knows, maybe there was a gate to the Far Realm on the Plane of Mineral, or maybe it's where a certain collective of the Gate's living fragments is trying to rebuild the gate. Maybe the Tsnng are Shardminds, and they just don't care.

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The Tsnng might need a bit more elaboration beyond their Monstrous Compendium entry, since all we know of them is that they see themselves as the self appointed rulers of the Plane of Mineral. Perhaps it's something to think more on whenever we get to renovating the Plane of Mineral. They're more interesting than the Bzastra from that same book, that I'm sure everyone has forgotten about.

And I don't think that the motivations of the Tsnng run counter to their motivations if they were Shardminds. The thing about Tsnng ruling small enclaves as the supposed overlords of their plane, who seek to destroy other enclaves. It's much like how some Shardminds seek to destroy other Shardminds, as they believe it might help rebuild the Living Gate. There's some cosmetic differences between the two. Obviously they changed the focus from arcane magic to psionics, mainly because of the crystals and psionics association built in 3e by Cordell who's probably behind that race.

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I liked the Tsnng from the moment I read about them. I also feel that so much more could be done with them, but as are many races, they are currently isolated to their own part of the cosmos. Aside from the obvious obstacle of ECL, I would love to make them a playable character option.
Tsnng, if I remember correctly, communicate with sound vibrations. Does shardminds have a similar property? (rant-By the way, Tsnng sounds much better to name a race than Shardmind. Seriously, I don't like all these "something~born" or "something~soul" or "sth~mind" words as names for entire races. Where are the times when developers used to find meaningless yet cool sounding names for races, like githzerai, illithid, or Tsnng? -sorry for the rant)
I can see the psychic Tsnng as good as the arcane Tsnng, they may have a greater potency to psychic powers as they have to arcane, so perhaps its a matter of belief, location, or breeding which one they practice. Also, after 3rd ed Psychics handbook, it is also logical to make a renovation of mineral plane to include psychic crystals too. It would make the plane even more attractive, especially to the gith PCs, and may increase the danger factor of the plane too - all those crystal can't be good for the brainbox, berk. If we ever get around to that, we can also make Psychic stone Tsnngs, and the Shardmind template could be useful for them.

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Evil wrote:
I liked the Tsnng from the moment I read about them. I also feel that so much more could be done with them, but as are many races, they are currently isolated to their own part of the cosmos. Aside from the obvious obstacle of ECL, I would love to make them a playable character option. Tsnng, if I remember correctly, communicate with sound vibrations. Does shardminds have a similar property?
Shardminds have an ability to use Telepathy in a 5 square radius, I guess you could say that when when using telepathy they are communicating with vibrations. Maybe it's just a type of ultrasonic vibration that has psychic resonance.
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I can see the psychic Tsnng as good as the arcane Tsnng, they may have a greater potency to psychic powers as they have to arcane, so perhaps its a matter of belief, location, or breeding which one they practice.
Well even if a lot of the flavour about the Shardmind has them being about Psionics, they're pretty good at being in Arcane or Divine classes, based on their ability score bonuses being, +2 Int, +2 Wis or Cha. They certainly can be like the living capacitors of arcane energy. And their entry suggests that they do make good Psions, Wizards and Invokers.

As far as the Living Far Realm gate goes, I remember this not good at all sci-fi series where some extra-dimensional aliens were trying to rewrite physical reality on Earth. And their presence in dreams had these forests of crystals, where tentacled beings stalked. So maybe the link between the Far Realms and something on the Plane of Mineral, could be similar.

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